
By Jenny Halper
British Screenwriter Niall Johnson makes his Hollywood debut with White
Noise, a thriller acquainting audiences with EVP (Electronic Voice
Phenomenon), which presumably allows practitioners to contact their dead loved
ones via electronically transmitted messages. Michael Keaton stars as Jonathan
Rivers, a successful architect with a beautiful wife (Chandra West). When his
wife dies in a car crash, Jonathan receives a visit from loner Raymond Price
(Ian McNeice), who introduces him both to distraught widow Sarah (Deborah Kara
Unger), and to EVP. As the initially reassuring messages Jonathan and Sarah
receive become increasingly menacing, they realize their own lives may be in
jeopardy.
Johnson is currently hard at work directing an all-star cast (including Kristin
Scott Thomas, Patrick Swayze, and Rowan Atkinson) in Keeping Mum, which he co-wrote
with novelist Richard Russo. He took time to chat with DVDFanatic.com
about his work on White Noise.
DVDFanatic.com: Did you originally conceive this as a horror movie
or a love story? It’s a little bit of both…
NIALL: They were always together, but the thing that inspired me to move ahead
with was the underpinnings of a love story. Without the underpinnings of a love
story, the horror doesn’t have the same reality. And then the horror-
the supernatural side of the story- is always there, there’s always the
idea that this guy’s grief blinds him to the warning signs. And the grief
is so great because of the relationship that he had. I think when I first had
the idea of shaping it into a script, there was more love story. But it became
a ghost story, definitely- there couldn’t be one without the other.
DVDFanatic.com: Was there more of a relationship with Sarah?
NIALL: Yes, there was…no, scratch that, there wasn’t really love,
but there was definitely a coming together of two people who are sharing the
same experiences. But, as with any script, when you work on it, you realize
some things aren’t going to…there’s a subtle way of sometimes
shrinking back. But there was never a move on my part or the producer’s
part to make them have a relationship at all. Didn’t want to do that.
They didn’t need a relationship for them to have a friendship.
DVDFanatic.com: When did you first hear of EVP?
NIALL: I didn’t know there was such a thing as EVP when I had the idea
for white noise. I was working on the story outline for white noise, and I only
heard about EVP when I was starting to write the script, bizarrely enough. I’d
read all sorts of stories about people who were taping the dead, and one of
them was William Peter Blatty writing in the introduction to his book about
the making of The Exorcist. He talks about himself, when he was at Jesuit College,
and a friend of his, who recorded the dead. And I read that book about twenty
years ago, and it just sat in my brain, and I started to do a bit of research,
at the point when I had already decided what story it would be, and I thought,
I’d better look into what these people do, who tape the dead. But when
I came across the thing that’s called EVP it was a completely a surprise
that there was this massive underground movement in connection to EVP.
DVDFanatic.com: The bonus tracks have footage of real EVP practitioners.
Did you get a chance to meet with any of them?
NIALL: The first meetings I had were with clairvoyants and mediums. I wanted
clarification on their take on it, because that’s key to the story, the
idea that Keaton’s character is dabbling, is meddling. And the research
I did was more in tune with the – that face this guy. So my meetings were
with clairvoyants, who were saying- “don’t mess with that. It’s
like a Ouija board. You’re cutting out the middle man.” The thing
about clairvoyants, they say “we protect you, because we ask for protection
from our spirit guide. If you’re going to make direct contact, you’re
meddling, that’s danger. And that was a kind of slant I was taking. The
EVP people I met- I met them, actually, after I finished the first or second
draft of White Noise- which was kind of tweaking the technical side of it, to
correspond…and that’s where I learned that there was phenomenon
called IVP, which is like a sister phenomenon to EVP.
DVDFanatic.com: The film begins and ends with footnotes explaining
facts and statistics relating to EVP. What sort of dramatic license did you
take?
NIALL: I suppose- the dramatic license I took- this is in Raymond’s speeches
in the script- was that the dead would talk to you about anything, like conversations
in this life about anything, and they’d say sometimes they want to talk
about how they died, sometimes they want to talk about you, sometimes they want
to talk about your ancestors that died, sometimes they want to talk about the
future. That was the key. Because if you go to a theater experience where a
clairvoyant stands to the front of the theater and picks on the person in the
back row, her dead uncle, and they’re talking about messages from the
dead, about the future. And the angle I took with EVP is that it’s just
like a Ouija board, it’s just a form of direct communication to the dead,
and therefore you might hear about things that haven’t happened yet, just
as you might hear about things that happened, and you might hear about things
dealing with you- not just things dealing with them. That was dramatic license,
one part of what EVP can do.
DVDFanatic.com: Did you write White Noise with Michael Keaton in mind?
NIALL: No, but he was an exact fit, because I wanted an actor who looked distinctly
older than the young leading man type. I wanted this to be about mature people,
and he had a life, things go on in their lives, are at a good place in their
lives now and it all crumbles around them. He was exactly the type that was
in my head. But I never allow myself to get too fixed on a particular actor,
because that’s a bit dangerous. (Laughs).
DVDFanatic.com: This was your first US film…
NIALL: Correct. I’d done English films.
DVDFanatic.com: Have any nightmares about what the studios might do
with it?
NIALL: Yeah, of course, I know for a fact that even with some of the London
based producers, when I was first developing the story, when I spoke with them,
they were like, “the end is a bit risky”…and the great thing
about Gold Circle and I must say this, its an American company run by a Brit…Gold
Circle really responded to the bleakness of the story. There was only one way
the film could end. And it was a massive reassurance, a massive reassurance.
Keaton’s not a hero- he’s a man in the wrong place, at the wrong
time, reading the wrong signs, not really the ghost is telling him about the
future. It was very encouraging that Gold Circle saw that.
DVDFanatic.com: How did you come up with the title? When I first heard
there was a movie called White Noise starring Michael Keaton, my mind jumped
to the Don DeLillo novel…
NIALL: I’d never heard of EVP when I started the film, and, to be honest,
when I first came up with the title and the idea, I’d never heard of the
Don DeLillo book. But the title was so perfect, I just thought, what do I do?
It’s always been called White Noise, that’s what it’s about.
And also, the script, for me, was not about EVP. It’s about a man, and
EVP is one of the tools he uses. And White Noise works because white noise is
a massive sound that builds up to either something or nothing. You can have
so much white noise, but white noise is just a collection of signals, you have
to decipher them. You tape white noise, and that’s how you hear the dead,
but it can build up to such an extent that you can’t hear the thing you
should hear, because of all the other stuff that’s going on, and that’s
exactly what the film’s about. So it’s a perfect metaphor- that’s
why I couldn’t- I know that it’s a novel, but it’s just perfect
for this. (Laughs).
DVDFanatic.com: OK, one more. What’s your favorite DVD and why?
NIALL: My favorite DVD? Not my favorite movie, but my favorite DVD?
DVDFanatic.com: How ‘bout both?
NIALL: "Once Upon a Time in the West." The story’s beautiful,
the pace is beautiful, it’s uncompromising because there are characters
that you can absolutely believe in. And it’s my favorite DVD because when
it came it was the full version, they had all the extras, and probably after
that my favorite DVD is "The Godfather" collection, because there’s
so, so much on it.
White Noise was released on DVD on May 17th.
Bonus features include deleted scenes, Hearing is Believing: Actual EVP Sessions,
Making Contact: EVP Experts, and Recording the Afterlife at Home Guide.